#brambleclaw is gonna die

[jayfs-feather]

Gonna get silly and write a fic like this maybe :3

Jaykit: Mom who is this cat following you around?

Squirrelflight, who has never ever had any idea who he’s talking about ever: …your ascendant. Your father’s kin from long ago. Probably.

Scourge: I mean, close enough

Lovveeeee squilf being scourges reincarnation type au’s but have we ever considered JayFeather being able to hear/sense scourge’s spirit just following his mom around

Squirrelflight: I mean Jaykit’s my son and I love him and all but I’m kinda scared of him…

Daisy: He’s a bit too smart for his own good, isn’t it?

Squirrelflight: Yeah, definitely, but I’m talking about… he keeps talking to someone around me that isn’t… there? Like for several minutes?

Sandstorm: Oh, kits just have an imagination like that! You pretended you were a real squirrel for almost a whole quarter of a moon.

Squirrelflight: I guess…

Jaykit, in the corner: Why do you smell like dog breath?

Scourge, who has no idea how this kid can see him: …um. How do you know what dog breath smells like?

Jaykit: Smells like you.

[featherdawn]

TNP is such an interesting arc for AUs due to how much it impacts future arcs, and thus how much changes in it impact those arcs as well.

currently I'm bouncing around an AU where several characters roles get shuffled around: Brambleclaw joins the Tribe instead of Stormfur, Stormfur dies saving the Tribe instead of Feathertail, and Tawnypelt gets the Dark Forest training arc that Brambleclaw had in the second half.

[mud-castle]

I was thinking, instead of the travel group discovering the lake, and all the clans agreeing to leave because of just how at each other's throats hey all are

What if Starclan essentially went "HEY DIPSHITS, YOU ARE GOING TO DIE IF YOU STAY HERE" and have them a general direction for the lake. Then Basically everyone immediately packs up and independently hauls their entire clan up there, probably fighting all the while and trying to strategically place themselves in the best position in this new territory.

I was gonna give an immediate "no," but the more I think on it, the more I think that actually might work better. There's not really a use in the story for the individual cats to go to the Sundrown place, especially considering all but two of them don't do anything after that.

I don't want Starclan to interfere so directly, cause then the clans kinda have to move their asses at the same time and that's kinda boring. So instead, how about the send dreams to the cats who would be the Sundrown patrol in the canon books before the twolegs start destroying the forests that they gotta haul ass soon.

But, in typical Starclan fashion, they're very cryptic about it. I'm having Feathertail and Stormfur follow Mistyfoot back into Riverclan cause Thunderclan has too many cats and Misty needs them to back her up later. Anyway, only Tawny tells her leader while Feather tells Mistyfoot and the other two don't tell anyone for the time being.

Brambleclaw doesn't because he's not the most popular warrior and also doesn't believe Starclan would want him for anything. Crowpaw for similar reasons and also cause he's an apprentice so why wouldn't Starclan talk to Mudfur about it Both of them kinda dismiss the dream while Blackstar dismisses Tawny's concerns.

But then the twolegs come and, to keep a long story short, Windclan leaves first, followed by Thunderclan, Shadowclan, then finally Riverclan. While there's like a few moons between Windclan and Riverclan leaving, they all arrive within a quarter moon of each other, thanks to the dangers of the mountain, fighting and infighting, losing their ways, Sharptooth, blizzards, and Starclan intervention.

[bonefall]

Are there any changes to Smokepaw (ShadowClan Apprentice in TNP) in BB? He is my all time favourite Warriors character for literally no reason, he existed twice, the second time to fall off a cliff and die, but I love him. I feel like he was a huge waste of potential, in that first time he appeared I thought of Blackstar as a sort of parental figure to him. Think like Firepaw and Bluestar, maybe? Or maybe more like Firepaw and Yellowfang? I'm sure that was just me serious projecting onto like less than a page of screen time, but I am so attached to him. I even made an AU where there was a conveniently placed river that swept him away to the Sundrown Place where he was taken in by Midnight.

Does BB have anything for my little guy?

Smokefall! Given an obligatory Sardonic ShadowClan name after he fell off a cliff and forced the entire journey to halt in its tracks for almost a month!

because shadowclan is like, ridiculously small and the family tree is a brick, Smokepaw (TNP), Smokepaw (Field Guides), and Smokefoot (Po3) are reworked. SmokeFALL survives, Smokepaw is now BILLOWCLOUD, and Smokefoot is SMOGFOOT.

Smog and Smoke are siblings. Billowcloud is not related to them.

Anyway, Smokepaw got REALLY hurt in that fall, but did survive

A (currently unpicked) Tribe cat actually climbed all the way down to get him. He had to be carried the rest of the way.

But once safe, he really couldn't move or else jeopardize his recovery. That, paired with a lack of travelling rations and a few pregnant cats close to delivery halted the Journey.

But Smokepaw still got ribbed relentlessly for "holding everyone up." Poor guy. ShadowClan humor.

Talonpaw got really close to him in that time. In fact, a LOT of cats developed close bonds in this "intermission," including many of the cats who would ultimately support Mudclaw's claim in WindClan.

Brambleclaw and Hawkfrost, as well.

In general, this is a really important hiatus because it's adding some PIVOTAL breathing room for cats to bond free of Clan divisions.

Clan Culture is never really the same after this. It's a change a long time coming.

He is also one of Birchfall's friends. This entire apprentice/kit generation has a very odd view on Clan divisions, because the Destruction of White Hart and the subsequent journey were so formative.

It was actually Smokepaw's "idea" to make Paw Soup. It came from a suggestion towards some WindClan apprentices, that they should try to make an ancient gumbo recipe that hadn't been seen since the start of Heatherstar's campaign.

Birchkit and his big bro Spiderpaw butted in, RiverClan apprentices didn't want to be left out, and the rest is history.

They never did make that gumbo but they made something new.

At the Lake, he also prevents Talonpaw from dying to Jacques and The Dreaded Susan. By also getting his ass beat.

(But that's probably gonna be offscreen because im not dedicating several chapters to it like canon when theres a civil war that should be in focus)

Smokefall becomes the next Educator of ShadowClan, and the mate of Talonclaw. Eventually Smogfoot surrogates a kit for them-- probably Pinenose.

The couple shows up at various points throughout Po3 and OotS as very important friends of Birchfall, and general friendly faces in ShadowClan which is a major ally through the arcs.

Sadly, though, they meet a gruesome and tragic end in AVoS. The Kin is a cult, and once it takes power, it immediately targets the one who teaches history. Smokefall. Talonclaw refuses to abandon his mate.

His position is taken by the infamous Berryheart, who is the educator through TBC. He is survived by several grandkits through Pinenose-- Slatefur, Puddleshine, and Happyface.

[timberweaves]

I’m gonna make some predictions for ASC Star bc I have lot of thoughts

First up

Things I Think Will Happen (bc I know how the Erins write)

•Sunbeam and Berrynose will make up and all of Berrynose’s xenophobia will be forgiven in a lame scene ab being protective or something

•Frostpaw will become leader

•Nightheart’s chapters will be largely camera chapters with little interaction between himself and Sunbeam or her family

•Splashtail’s supporters will be completely forgiven and their complicity excused bc they were good deep down

Ok now

Things I Have a Forboding Feeling will Happen

•Squilf dies. like she never got her nine lives, and instead Bramble was stripped of his and starclan revealed they will die together bc of fate or something or they lied to the clans ab her getting accepted by starclan. My reasoning is 1. Nightheart left them at the Moonpool so we didn’t see the direct aftermath, the authors beat up squilf every chance they get, and squilf has been uncharacteristically avoidant of conflict, possibly to protect the secret if she is hurt or killed.

•Leafstar continues to act completely unreasonably/ in an out-of-character fashion, OR she has a sudden change of personality bc we need the readers to like her before next arc.

•Mothwing dies. Somehow it won’t matter that Frostpaw is leader and there’s no medic bc frop just Does Both lol

•Fernstripe still gets no focus despite the theme of this arc

•StarClan continues to be completely neutral evil in everything they do

And finally

Things I Really Want to Happen

•Riverclan is led by Mothwing, Icewing, and Duskfur as a committee and they each get 3 lives. It would fit the whole “making riverclan different and better” idea lol

•Nightheart talks to Rootspring and it’s cute (yes ik Ivypool’s Heart is happening but it could be an epilogue come on)

•Curlfeather murders Splashtail as a ghost to protect Frostpaw in a scene with really fun parallels to Splash killing Reedwhisker and trying to kill Frop earlier. We know from OOTS that dark forest cats can interact with the real world so why not man

•Curlfeather is redeemed and allowed into StarClan, beginning a trend of StarClan being REASONABLE FOR ONCE PLEASE ERINS PLEASE

•Whistlepaw gets her full name (maybe in an epilogue) and it’s Whistlefrost

•Frostpaw is named Frostriver or Frostripple bc duh

•RiverClan Actually Changes

•Fernstripe interacts with Sunbeam

•A tom moves to a clan instead of a she-cat

•Brambleclaw dies somehow

Ok the end

[warrior-cats-rewritten]

I'm not trying to be rude, but I feel like you're going way too far to punish Brambleclaw. Thistleclaw, the child groomer, doesn't receive this treatment. I don't understand the point of bringing him back if you're going to portray him as the most evil cat in history. Brambleclaw is buried outside, while most of the evil cats are buried within the clan's territory, which seems very extreme. If you hate him so much, don't include him in a rewrite. It will feel just like what you hate the Erins for, "forcing too much on Brambleclaw." If you dislike a character, don't focus on them. Like Jesus Christ, my friend wasn't wrong, you have a hate boner for this cat. I mean no offense, but it's weird, dude. Real weird.

Why is it that the minute I post bramble facing consequences for actions I get bramblestans in my inbox assuming I hate him? I think what's weird is very clearly trawling the tag to look for posts like mine so you can write an essay. What you should be doing is drawing him with green eyes, it looks good.

Cause if you knew this project, you would know that Thistleclaw isn't a child goomer anymore, technically. He is Ivypaw's Dark Forest mentor (which... is grooming people but not THAT way), as Hawkfrost has a proper arc now and... Doesn't die in Sunset.

I will say one thing though, I did actually forget one thing to mention that you caught! He isn't on Thunderclan's MAIN territory. I mean... what do you call a border that shifts ALL the time? It's the Thunder-Shadow Niagara Falls.

It's where Tawnypelt is going to be buried! Under a pine tree. (It's also close to a lungwort patch Rowanstar is the protector of, territories NEED landmarks)

Also.... I don't truly hate him hate him! Sure, he sucks but he isn't real. And as a character? Dude, he's FUN. He's a self fulfilling Prophecy, he has good moments, in WCR, he is still a POV during TNP and is buddies with Cinderpelt. He's canonically a giant PUFFBALL of an animal and I've never been against adding your own pets to Xenofiction! I am also the biggest advocate for the Give Brambleclaw Green Contacts Organization. I'm giving him more moments with his family, and while those relationships get REALLY strained, it's a story. He wouldn't be interesting if he was a cardboard cutout of a cat. I think he's interesting in a way that is both intriguing and frustrating.

He's messy.

He loves his daughter Dandeliontuft, but she's the spitting image of his mother who died right after swearing to never speak to him again, and Dandy is nearly mute... It's hard to think about. Abusers are not unfathomable monsters with no redeeming qualities. He still cried when he thought Lionpaw was buried alive.

He does show up to Starclan, but when he sees the smoldering scorched earth, it's a clear message. He wasn't welcome, and he will not be staying. It's not like the actual literal groomer Stormtail, who got poisoned repeatedly, had all of his relationships ruined, and chased out of Starclan every night by a living and dead Goosefeather until his spirit eroded due to his refusal to move on. Tom got eaten alive and his spirit consumed by One Eye.

He's a ghost now. He's gonna have a long, long time to reflect on what he's done. How badly he did hurt others. He's been around too long, and his generation needs to be done away with. I think he'll find peace wandering the land, being a cat ghost.

He's not an evil cat, he's just stubborn. Stuck in the way he was taught to be by the Clans.

[wc-confessions]

I have a few,, that are on my mind, so im just gonna put them here

I wish the Erins actually went in depth about why Frecklewish's status in StarClan was changed. that would have been SO COOL to see if maybe she was framed, or maybe Mapleshade trapped her there, or maybe she was just annoying in StarClan and knowing StarClan they just banished her without a second thought. none of this wishy-washy "oh well she didnt do anything when the river was flooded, its not like that would have just added another dead body into the mix ig idk", yeah she's a character that has done some things that are not morally right but she doesnt get excited when kits die ffs.

I like seeing Mapleshade, she's our only long-standing female villain and it makes me really happy to see her. except when she's with thistleclaw. I hope she mauled him to death in the dark forest when she found out about Spottedpaw.

I wish warriors had more non-conforming characters. characters that directly challenged leaders and didnt give a fuck about clan order. SkyClan is really cool to me for that because they have weird names, have an interesting new role that would be so helpful in the other clans, and they just... I love them. I also love Squirrelflight because she fights Brambleclaw about all his shitty decisions. fuck anyone who says that she was in the wrong for that, Brambleclaw needs to get his act together.

Erins stop getting young female characters together with older male ones i will eat your shoelaces.

it always confuses me when people say spottedleaf continued thistleclaws cycle of abuse because like... in the books where she was alive, she barely talked to Firestar. like... the rest of it was a retcon. a dumb retcon that made her look creepy but a retcon at that. she didnt at all show any affection towards firestar. they were like coworkers.

I wish we had more cats that were a) willingly healers and b) were EVIL healers. IMAGINE THE POTENTIAL...

I hate to admit this but for some really odd reason I do like LeafCrow. not in the "oh hes done nothing wrong!!" idea, but because I have this really specific fanon idea of Crow in my brain that's just... idk, i have no idea why i like it, idk why i like crow, mothpool is better, but its just in my brain and it wont go away.

i liked bluestars prophecy, squirrelflights hope, and yellowfangs secret. maybe its because i read them when i was a little younger and i have an attachment to the characters but minus sandstorms comment in SH that ruined my perception of her I liked reading them. Yay bluestar being a character thats mentally ill and has had a pattern of this thats really really relatable, yay squirrelflight fighting brambleclaw and choosing what's right, YAY yellowfang, just yay yellowfang.

and finally, transmasc Hollyleaf and transfem Lionblaze. i love them dearly.

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[blimbo-buddy]

If you had your way with arcs: who would you have as the single pov character for them?

See, I think that some arcs could benefit from bigger casts, such as TNP. But that's only if they actually stuck with the idea of multiple povs from different clans and wrote it actually good. Though I can still give my own choices of protagonists from each arc, if I was given the chance to.

These are just rough ideas so not everything is gonna stick, y'know. Dunno if this will all be apart of a rewrite so don't take this as a solid idea of my rewrite

The Prophecies Begin

Main pov: FireStar

This one has the least amount of changes done to it. I feel like FireStar being the main pov, the main protagonist is what works best for this arc. I'd really go into detail about how alone he feels in this new world he chose for himself, make it seem like that everything and everyone is working against him because of his heritage. All building up to his victory in the battle against Bloodclan, where he loses all of his freedom, his humanity, and finally becomes the leader of Thunderclan. It's horrible, tragic, beautiful.

The New Prophecy

Main pov(s): BrambleClaw, SquirrelFlight, CrowFeather, TawnyPelt, FeatherTail, StormFur, LeafPool

I'd probably go the first arc of Wings of Fire route for TNP, each book is from the pov of a different protagonist. As much as we've all dread the idea of CrowFeather having a book, we still got a super edition of him (Which, in this version would go to BreezePelt). I don't know which books would be about which characters though, but BrambleClaw and SquirrelFlight will probably share the Thunderclan book together, or I might switch that to SquirrelFlight and LeafPool sharing the Thunderclan book. HawkFrost and MothWing would fill the roles as the major supporting cast for sure.

The Power of Three

Main pov(s): LionBlaze, HollyLeaf, JayFeather

Also generally stays the same, it's called the power of three. Characters like CinderHeart, FlameTail (Who is far, far younger in this version), HeatherTail and BreezePelt would have more of a presence in the books, filling in the role of major supporting characters. Not much to say here honestly.

Omen of the Stars

Main pov(s): LionBlaze, JayFeather, DoveWing, IvyPool

Excluding HollyLeaf from the main cast because she would show up generally around the same time as she does in the books (Maybe earlier though). She does, however, fill the role as a major supporting character. Some of the other major supporting characters: TigerHeart, HollowFlight, CinderHeart, BreezePelt, HeatherTail

Dawn of the Clans

Main pov(s): GreyWing, TurtleTail, Thunder, TallShadow, probably some other cats

Okay this is where it's becoming obvious that I'm making this up from the top of my head. I got no real explanation for my choices I hope these characters all die (Except TurtleTail, Thunder, and TallShadow)

A Vision of Shadows

Main pov(s): SparkPelt, TwigBranch, VioletShine, someone else I dunno

So here's the thing: I want AlderHeart and NeedleTail to still be super involved with the plot, so they might become major supporting characters. But I'm struggling with the choices of making them povs or major supporting characters. But AlderHeart and NeedleTail would fall into different roles, especially AlderHeart, who would become apart of The Kin. That's all I got though I really don't care for this arc, just some of the characters, can you guys tell I want to get to TBC already.

The Broken Code

Main pov: ShadowSight

Yep, BristleFrost and RootSpring have now been slapped down to the major supporting character rank, joining this rank with NeedleClaw. Same thought process with FireStar being the only pov, I want to make ShadowSight seem alone, even if he has the support of his family, he doesn't even have the trust of his Clan, even his mentor flinches whenever he moves a little too fast or aggressively. Although I really want BristleFrost and RootSpring to be povs, I really do and I have no idea what route I want to go for. But I feel like if I had the choice, making ShadowSight the only pov really adds onto the hopelessness of the situation that he himself had caused because of heavy manipulation by an angel.

A Starless Clan

Main pov: FrostPaw

Double whammy with these singular pov characters. I explain my thought process with both her and ShadowSight better in this post, but basically I want her situation of all her support slowly fading away to really have an impact. You read the first book and think "Wow I'm so glad FrostPaw has all of her support from her family, mentor, and Clan!", until the end of the first book and beginning of the second book comes around, and it just hits you in the face like a brick that FrostPaw is going to be in for the worst time of her life

In the supporting cast department, we got: SunBeam, WhistlePaw, ShadowSight, LightLeap, FinchLight, SparkPelt, NightHeart, TigerHeartStar, and DoveWing

[quiverpaw]

holy shit this book is actually good this is the best way this could of gone by erin standards. im so happy to see squirrelstar. im a little scared she’s gonna die but at least brambleclaw isnt leader anymore. whos gonna be deputy!!

[acaciapines]

plant meanings!!!! ramble about em!!!!!! I wanna hear it!!!!

he he :3

plants! technically spoilers for the fic i just posted the vine that ate the south, so like, yknow. under the cut!

alright so! i spent. do not even want to know how long to come up with all of these. from the start i knew leafpool was gonna be kudzu and since (as probably is obvious from the title) the idea of kudzu growing over and smothering everything is strongly associated with the american south, the clans are vaguely set there! somewhere in the georgia-alabama area idk. so all my plants. should grow there lol.

and now to copy paste my notes! anything added i'll put in (parenthesis) at the end.

Leafpool: Kudzu (Pueraria montana), smothering imagery—she is smothered and left to die by starclan.

Squirrelflight: The wild strawberry (Fragaria virginiana). There is something to this idea of always being this provider, and how that is taken from her, ex. how this is one of the parents of the cultivated strawberry. Also straw is similar to star <3. (i'll add--literally i just liked the vibes of this also, i tried finding something else but just kept coming back squilf being a strawberry <3)

Mothwing: While she doesn’t actually have a daemon, to hide that she weaves long-spurred violets (Viola rostrata) into her fur, because violets are lesbian flowers and also because they tend to grow near eastern hemlock trees…so, connecting her to Leafpool! (ie. to the forest, aka where leaf is from) Before her brother’s death, however, she wore aconite (Aconitum lycoctonum,)the specific species of which is non-native but grown in gardens in the Americas, and less toxic than some other varieties, so she gets the benefits of not being doubted (who would wear actual toxin in their fur) without like. dying lol.

Hollyleaf: Wood Lily (Lilium philadelphicum) as they’re poisonous to cats and thus get that association, but also in looks you could see them as a star—but not an aster species. She’s the odd one out. 

Jayfeather: Georgia aster (Symphyotrichum georgianum). It’s a rather rare species that used to be far more common as it depends on wildfire-made environments and thus occupies a far smaller range than it once did, like how Jay is sort of hemmed in and stuck by the clan system lol.

Lionblaze: Calico aster (Symphyotrichum lateriflorum). It’s a pretty common aster species with a wide range and it grows in tandem with other aster species—I write Lion as a pretty family-oriented guy so it fits.

and though she was cut from the fic dovewing would have both kudzu (to connect her w/ leaf, and very much show how starclan is now forcing dove to the prophecy and basically stuff i wrote in flightless dove) and Aster quitensis, which is a rare and maybe extinct aster species that is only found in ecuador. my notes here just say "she is not getting out of this alive" so take that as you will.

and for the minor characters who i gave plants...

Cinderpelt: Woodland Sunflower (Helianthus divaricatus) just. Because I feel like it fits her okay. cheerful despite her circumstances, happy to be here, taking it one day at a time.

Brambleclaw: Carolina Rose (Rosa carolina) because. C’mon. The thorns. The association with love. He’s toxic as get out. The story isn’t about that but it COULD BE. (brambleclaw was going to play a larger role but the fic turned way deeper into leaf being the mother of hollyjaylion than i thought it would be so he mostly got cut.)

Firestar: Southern Live Oak (Quercus virginiana), because it's a large tree that works with Thunderclan being The Forest, and also they're like, almost evergreen--they keep their leaves year-round mostly and Thunderclan would like that!

annnnnd that's my plants! wahoo!

[cryptidflow3r]

The Feathertail rant pt.1 her canon irrelevance and lost potential

This is gonna be long so I'm add a page break

Disclaimer: I have not read The New Prophecy in like 2 years so if some of my details are off, feel free to correct me, just be nice :). Also I am purely talking about The New prophecy, not any non-main series books.

Ok where do I start? She's boring. That's where I will start.

She is given no character in NP and is just a nice slab of cardboard despite being one of our main characters and having a tragic interesting past.

Feathertail is not some background nobody with no past or connections. She is a pretty important character/plot device even in the first arc.

Her dad is Graystripe, she is a half clan kit, her father joined her clan then left when she was a kit, she was imprisoned with her brother Stormfur, Stonefur, and Mistyfoot when Tigerstar took over Riverclan, she watched her brother's mentor who she was almost certainly also close with die to protect her.

And with all that the Eirns decided to make her some untramatized basic cat with a fine relationship with her father?

Yeah sure.

I guess all that childhood trama did nothing to her mindset.

Plus the audacity to give her only two chapters of it being her perspective when her brother is unavailable, and barely any personality, and then expect us to care when she dies? Really?

I did not care when she died. Did I buy the dramatic sacrifice? Yeah sure. But I didn't care very much.

It was just a "oh that's unfortunate" reaction from me.

I also did not care for her romance with Crowpaw. Especially because we were seeing it from Stormfur's perspective who was just thinking "you better not date my sister! That would be against the code!" While at the same time looking at Squirrelpaw and going "She's pretty, Brambleclaw sure is lucky to have her, too bad I'm not thunderclan". Yeahh.. not my favorite.

Most of this also applies to Stormfur as well. Though I have my own gripes with some of the stuff he specifically does/doesn't do. So I'll probably give him his own post.

I just think it is so strange that the Erins had these characters with what feels like built in conflict an intrigue and they didn't use them.

Like they have so much potential! And yet they are so under used!

That's about all the thoughts I have about canon Feathertail, I have more thoughts about my version of Feathertail (CV!Feathertail my beloved <3), and I have a few more thoughts about Stormfur but I'll save those for a separate post.

Until then have a good day :)

[owlsnow]

i just wanna say. it took up until like a year or two ago for me to get used to calling brambleclaw bramblestar and now i'm gonna have to go back. like i almost want the "bramble and squirrel will die before they reach the moonpool" theory to be true even tho i disagree purely so that i don't have to readjust again. squirrelstar sweep tho

[the-owl-tree]

I’m sorry about this cuz I know the map section is gonna be difficult, but Ashfur?

i love this dude

sexuality headcanon

aggressively straight

gender/pronouns headcanon

cis he/him

rate them out of ten

8/10 could've been a 10/10 if the authors werent weird

favorite thing about them

his obsessiveness, his refusal to let go, the way he's willing to drag everyone down with him if it means no one wins, his singing skills

least favorite thing about them

the initial reason why he went to cat heaven

why i first started liking/disliking them

i liked him in po3 because i enjoyed him as a villain, disliked that he went to heaven because the authors sorry for him, then REALLY liked him thanks to the broken code. what a way to bring back a villain and in such a creepy and memorable way too!! none of the bad shit he does feels forced, he's built up to be this cruel entitled villain who can't let go.

do i relate/project onto/kin them?

no <3

favorite quote/moment

the fire scene's good but i love when squilf fakes her death and he just mopes around as if he isn't the one who kicked her out

my fav ship

he will die alone

my fav platonic friendship

he has no friends

a ship i hate

he's alone

do i prefer canon or fanon?

canon for the most part

random headcanon

sort of about ashfur? i imagined brambleclaw was the one who requested he mentor one of their kids, as show of good will towards his old friend. it did not turn out well.

what color do i picture them as

blue-gray, more gray then blue

cat breed headcanon

stinky

unpopular opinion

idk uh villains are fun to enjoy and i think ppl who like ashfur have good taste. thank you

things i associate with them

.....fire, ash, water

song i associate with them

i feel like this and the map section will go hand in hand so i might as well just list the songs and videos in the next section

favorite MAP/PMV/AMV with them

rory, sunshine, daisy bell, baby shoes, pigeon, kiss goodnight and mISTER BRIGHTSIDEEEE

[bonefall]

Your talk about how you would handle the TBC POVs made me wonder what your plan is for the POV distribution in TNP and OOTS, which I don't think you've discussed yet.

I think I mentioned Po3 in the reeds of other posts, but I haven't mentioned TNP! TNP is the one that's more up in the air.

Bonefall TNP POVs

I'm thinking of restructuring this arc based around the Tigerkin in general, but I need to be in ThunderClan for the destruction of the forest. So I'm thinking the POVs will be Tawnypelt, Brambleclaw, and Mothwing.

Tawnypelt

Tawnypelt is the new leader of the Sundrown Patrol. She is replacing Stormfur's POVs, objectively observing the personalities on the patrol to establish that Brambleclaw is not a reliable narrator.

She's also going to get some expanded scenes with Rowanclaw, who is now a son of Brokenstar, giving her a more conclusive end to her arc. As much as I feel like SHE should have gotten Brambleclaw's TNP story, I'm dealing with the cards that were dealt and only putting the final bow on rejecting Tigerstar and finding peace in her choice to join ShadowClan.

Brambleclaw

Being established as an unreliable narrator, setting up the person he will be for maaaany books to come, and keeping his conflict with Hawkfrost very similar.

Necessary ThunderClan POV for the post-Journey conflicts, like the WindClan rebellion and the badger attack. But he also won't become deputy after the stake incident, he gets demoted and replaced with Brackenfur until Brackenfur’s death in the Eclipse Battle

Mothwing

But. Mudfur and Barkface are going to die early (crushed by the Mothermouth collapsing on them), so Mothwing is going to come and get training from Cinderpelt so I can have her in ThunderClan during the destruction of the forest and keep major events the same.

This means extra Mothpool content. I also want to write about how free and happy Mothwing feels, being away from Hawkfrost, in spite of the world caving in around her. Establish more about Hawkfrost right from a primary source.

She is also the one who ends up killing him. He followed him to the fox trap and frees Firestar as Brambleclaw starts fighting Hawkfrost. In his anger, he tries to lunge at her, not realizing that she's holding the spike in her teeth.

She replaces Leafpool as a POV, meaning we won't get Leafcrow chapters, but im gonna be honest... i dont think that's a massive sacrifice. That would be better left to a Leafpool's Wish redux.

Bonefall Po3 POVs

This one's easy! Hollyleaf and Jayfeather are slurping up most of Lionblaze's POV time.

Lionblaze's arc is simple for Po3 and we're going to get a lot more of him in OotS, so I felt comfortable only giving him the camera now and then. Mostly he learns from the Tribe that strength is for protecting others, and his powers grow and he starts having trouble controlling his strength.

Hollyleaf is going to be GONE in OotS so it's important to give her lots of time here. She's the primary character of Po3 really, learning about the world and problem solving with her mentor Brackenfur.

Po3 is a "breather" arc that focuses on slice-of-life stuff now, tied together by Hollypaw learning about maintaining friendships in other clans and growing up as a rising prodigy. She is the main POV

And then there's Jayfeather, who trains under his grand-uncle Longtail to become a full warrior, before choosing the medcat den after getting his warrior name, Jayfang. Jayfeather is an honor title he gets for saving Hazeltail and completing his training

He also is trying to wrench the prophecy from StarClan itself and is very antagonistic with them. They don't share the prophecy early. Or willingly. As the series advances, Jay figures that they're hiding something and begs them to help, eventually losing his patience for their open disdain of him and his siblings.

This culminates in him fighting a StarClan warrior to save Hazel and getting that honor title. The clan does not know he committed sacrilege.

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Important to remember: back in Shadow when Nightheart was talking with Bramblestar, Bramble said that he got word from StarClan that he was going to have to make some kind of sacrifice...

(Shadow pg. 225) and so far we haven't seen any major sacrifice yet so something big is still going to happen.

Heres my prediction for how this goes down in Wind: - Splashtail, now Splashstar, in control of RiverClan starts a war with ThunderClan and or everbody else and theres going to be a big battle. - Before or during said big battle Brambleclaw and or Squils is going to reveal that they never did get through to StarClan and she never got her lives. - During said battle, Brambleclaw is going to die for realizes. - Theres going to be a big panic about how Squils is now vulnerable and their gonna have to sneak off to the Moonpool. - A big climax where the dogs that killed Curlfeather (lead by Splashstar cause he knew what was going on) are going to show back up, but the protags are all going to show up at the last second and fight off the dogs. - The book ends with Squils getting her lives for real this time (and during the ceremony Bramblestar gets to cut to the front of the line and give her a life) - For real now Squils vs Splashstar is gonna be the plot of book 6 Star.

And if Squils die… well then we just speedran to Ivystar cause I can’t see Brambleclaw surviving this arc.

With Squirrelstar’s ceremony not appearing in the Thunder, I’m genuinely wondering if some kind of Nightstar(TBP) tomfoolery is going on…

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i know dullard dislikes romance so they dont need to answer this (and theyve talked about it on the old blog as well) but im curious- what do you think about romance in canon warriors lynx? do you find any pairings decently or well written? or do you think they're all poorly planned?

My brain isn't quite prepared to fully articulate my opinions, so here's the "I've been playing Slime Rancher for twelve hours within the past day and all that's on the mind is squishy slimes" version of my explanation.

The romance in Warriors is pretty bad overall in the quality of its romance arcs. You can kinda see where they were going for with them, but because this is a bookshelf fodder paycheck series, the execution is pretty much always worse than the intent. Fireheart and Sandstorm were intended to be enemies to lovers (sorta), but in execution, it's just a mess where Sandstorm's opinions on Fireheart take a 180 for no discernable reason and then Fireheart proceeds to make the stupidest decisions with her that just make you wonder why she still settles for him. Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw were intended to be ride-or-die lovers that slung insults at one other like best friends do but they know the other doesn't really mean it, but in execution, Brambleclaw is an abusive bastard and Squirrelflight is, while not blameless herself, his beaten-down lover. Rootspring and Bristlefrost are intended to be a cross-Clan couple where she has to warm up to the idea of being together with him, but in execution, it feels like the poor girl is settling for an immature child when she deserves someone just as good-hearted and mature as Stemleaf (and also the relationship was needed narratively speaking because of the whole half-Clan relationship breaking the code nonsense that needed to be pushed, which, can I just say, ShadowRoot would've been the better option, especially if Rootspring was a medicine cat himself? That'd be like triple-taboo! Come on, Erins!).

If you're gonna find any decent couples, take your eyes off the main focus of the page, but that won't even guarantee you a good couple more often than not (lookin at you, BlossomThorn and very very early DustFern). BrackenSorrel is pretty cute to my memory, but I haven't read TNP in almost ten years so I can't remember if there's any sketchy stuff going on.

If I were ever to make a semi-canon-compliant rewrite of Warriors, I'd take the relationships' intent and just go with that (sans SpottedThistle, I am not qualified to make a May-December Romance with an apprentice, Lord, that book is just a nightmare to everyone's characters). BrambleSquirrel is just the two being a badass power couple, SpottedFire is her being a spiritual guide and he's got a crush on the teacher that goes nowhere, and BristleRoot... BristleRoot doesn't happen and she gets with someone like Stemleaf while Shadowsight and Rootspring have to deal with the forbidden relationship nonsense because 1) they're cross-Clan, 2) Shadowsight's a medicine cat, and 3) Rootspring is a medicine cat!